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Old Mar 26, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #221
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HOW TO BEAT THE DOPPELGANGER, QUICK AND EASY for Warrior, Ranger and Ele... Tried and tested by ME myself.

Warrior - Take Frenzy, don't use it, and pump up your weapon attributes (pref. sword or axe). If you are W/Mo, Life Attunement is useful but not necerssary (DON'T USE IT YOURSELF), as a W/N, sacrifice skills rock, W/Me could take Elemental Resistance and attack with a non-elemental weapon (or vice-versa). W/R has a pet, which is cute AND bonus damage, and W/E has... Attunement skills, that he'll waste time casting.

Though, none of that is necerssary, FRENZY IS YOUR FRIEND.

Elementalist - Simple. Pump either Water or Fire up to 16 (Water is superior here, as always ). Take Flare/Ice Spear, and spam away. Dead in ~15 seconds with Ice Spear. Also, you may want to bring useless (in this situation) spells for it to cast - Rust, Blurred Vision, Ward Against Melee, etc.

Ranger - Pump up marksmanship, take Penetrating Shot and 7 useless Spirits (Energizing Wind, Winter, etc.) He'll go and use them, hammer at him with Shot, and he'll die fast.

Have fun kicking your double's ass.
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Old Mar 26, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #222
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this but for ranger......

Bring A Pet!!!!!!!!(Yes it works as of like 5 days ago....i tried it)

Bring all of your normal skills except for an interupt(or bring disupting lunge for your pet instead)

At start of fight Dobble will attack you, but as soon as you pet engages him, he will attack your pet. If you pet is lvl 20 (mine was) the pet willl last long enough (I healed it I think 1-2times), and distract him, so you can take him out easily with your skills.

Using this I killed him in about 10-15 seconds.

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Old Mar 26, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #223
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Dopperlgangers only use a sertain ammount of skills so their are some skills you equip that he doesnt.
Like "Heeling Breeze" It seems to be that your dopperganger doesnt use this type of skill, and so it is very good for fighting your doppelganger since you have a better chance of surviving when you can heal.

Tip: just take 2/3 skills 1: heeling breez and 1/2 smite or attack skill so you know what your up against and its the most easy to handle ..

GL all char with monk prof.
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Old Mar 27, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #224
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Great Guide, Ive got mine on lvl 14 with a monk with Dark Pact and Divine Boon, i was lvl 18 when i did got in Dragons Lair
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Old Mar 27, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #225
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Quick update. It seems that the dopple has been patched/updated so he uses healing breeze. Don't take it anymore : (
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Old Mar 27, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18   #226
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I don't know about then, but when I tried to fight my dopple as a n/mo he didn't use any of the sacc spells, I died 3 times. Then I when with a differnt strategy, I used chilblains, signet of agony, maliase, spinal shivers, plague touch, and I don't rember what the other 2 were.

I started off with chil, then palgue touch, the sig of agony, touch, he then went to malise, then touched me, I touched back, and we proceded to recycle the same plagues back and forth until he died, just at the time limit for the bonus
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22   #227
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All necro primaries and secondaries can beat the Doppel in about 10 seconds. Take ONLY these skills:

Awaken the Blood
Verata's Aura

When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch...
It didn't work for me. I tried at least 10 times with only these two skills or with bunch of sacrifice skills. He doesn't cast all of them at all. And if you watch his health bar, it only dropped very little with any sacrifice skill he used. I think the percentage of health he sacrifices is different from what we suffer. However, this is just my guess.

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Old Mar 31, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #228
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I'm trying to ascend as a lvl 3 Me/N, can anyone help? People say all sacrificing spells is so easy, but the Doppleganger doesn't seem to kill himself with sacrificing spell. Keep in mind my damage is very low, and so is my Health (dead in 3 hits).

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, and I mdae it ^^ Level 12 now, time to get my FoW Armor :O
Backfire at end of your skill bar, with the rest filled with enchantment skills. I did my Me last week this way. 5 seconds was all it took.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05   #229
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I just took down my Warrior dopple in around 10 seconds. *proud*
I picked up Frenzy, Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Retribution, Holy Wrath. Sexy. Of course, I had a high level Tactics for Ripostes :/

Monster damage!
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Old Apr 02, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #230
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It didn't work for me. I tried at least 10 times with only these two skills or with bunch of sacrifice skills. He doesn't cast all of them at all. And if you watch his health bar, it only dropped very little with any sacrifice skill he used. I think the percentage of health he sacrifices is different from what we suffer. However, this is just my guess.
Same, he seems to only sac himself down to 10% now. I have even beaten him, but not ascended. I got the 50,000 exp and did not ascend :-(



AND when I hid behind the walls he still hits me with arrows.

Edit:

I beat him again with Order of pain, Awaken the Blood, and then Spamming Dark Pact on him.

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Old Apr 03, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38   #231
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-How to beat the doppleganger using only primary proffesion skills-


There is no need to have 100% these attributes, but try to get it as close to 12 as possible.

I did all this with my Necromancer his armor was the desert 60al collector armor, no runes or anything.
So it should be fully possible to do the same thing with any other proffesion.

And here is the link for all skill quests if you are missing any of these.
http://www.guildwiki.org/guildwars/i...p/Skill_Quests

And here the link for all normal skill merchants.
http://www.guildwiki.org/guildwars/i...iner_locations


_-Monk-_

Attributes:
Smiting prayers 12+

Skills:
Smite hex
Scourge Healing
Symbol Of wrath
Holy wrath
Retribution

Put Holy wrath and Retribution on yourself before entering the mountain.
Run up to the doppleganger and unleash Symbol of wrath, then let him hit you.
He will go down before you do.


_-Necromancer-_

Attributes:
Curses 12+

Skills:
Enfeeble
Insidous Parasite
Price Of failure

Those 3 skills is all you need.
Get up close to him so he hits you with his melee weapon.
Keep casting those spells on the dobbleganger but do not attack him, he will die after some time.


_-Mesmer-_

Attributes:
Illusion 12+
Domination 12+

Skills:
Empathy
Clumsiness
Distortion

Again throw the spells on the doppleganger stand close to him and let him hit you.
Recast clumsiness when it is recharged.
Keep disortion on yourself for extra defence.


_-Elementalist-_

Attributes:
Fire magic 12+

Skills:
Flare
Firestorm
Meteor Shower

As soon as you enter the mountain target the doppelganger as fast as possible and cast Meteor shower on him.

The doppelganger will try to cast Firestorm or Meteor shower on you, when he does move out of the AoE and cast Firestorm on him.

When moving out of his AoE dont go to far, then he will move away from your AoE Spells

Keep casting Flare on him after you have casted Meteor Shower and Firestorm on him.

_-Ranger-_

Attributes:
Markmanship 12+

Skills:
All spirits you can get to that stage of the game. (Ex: Winnowing/Favorable winds)
Dual Shot

Do not cast any spirits yourself the doppleganger will stand there and waste alot of time casting them.
And when he is doing that you attack and spam him with dual shot.

_-Warrior-_

Attributes:
Weapon Skill 12+

Skills:
Frenzy

Do not use frenzy yourself, the doppleganger will spam it and that will be his doom.
Due to frenzy he will take alot more dmg from normal weapon attacks, all you need to do is hit him a few times and he is gone.


Thanks to Eolen for the idea and Karn for any skills info and help.
So if anyone else has ideas or skills that would help.
Feel free to post them here.

Credit to Original poster Varg Winterchill from Ogaming.com
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Old Apr 03, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #232
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Here is my guide:
Warrior: Bring Frenzy and just rape him
Monk: Set stats to smite and smit the crap out of him
El: Bring A bunch of slow spells while you only pelt him with flare
Ranger:: Pet
Nec: HP Loss spells only and jus sit back
Mes: Backfire though after fighting the doppleganger it is hardest with the mes
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Old Apr 04, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39   #233
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I have a Mo/E and what skill shall I use to kill him?

Have tried 20 times and no sucsess...
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Old Apr 06, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #234
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Angry Doppelganger...near impossible!!!

I have tried everything to defeat him and after many, many tries still have not been able to. I'm a lvl 20 Ele/Nec and I have tried the meteor shower, fire storm, flare method but his energy level hardly moves at all. He is definitely NOT my mirror and seems much more powerful than me. If anyone has any suggestions i'm open to all...

Completely frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Apr 06, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47   #235
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If you have a Necro primary or secondary, you can just let him sac himself to death! I tried this on my W/N and it worked like a Charm ... Bring lots of useless health sacrificing spells. *Don't* get Blood Renewal since this will heal him. Bring Awaken the Blood, Enfeebling Blood, Defile Flesh, etc. etc. and then sit back and watch the fun!
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #236
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I have tried everything to defeat him and after many, many tries still have not been able to. I'm a lvl 20 Ele/Nec and I have tried the meteor shower, fire storm, flare method but his energy level hardly moves at all. He is definitely NOT my mirror and seems much more powerful than me. If anyone has any suggestions i'm open to all...

Completely frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!

just use metor shower right away then flare just di it with me ele
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41   #237
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Originally Posted by Ramses X
I have tried everything to defeat him and after many, many tries still have not been able to. I'm a lvl 20 Ele/Nec and I have tried the meteor shower, fire storm, flare method but his energy level hardly moves at all. He is definitely NOT my mirror and seems much more powerful than me. If anyone has any suggestions i'm open to all...

Completely frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!

ur half necro. use sacrefice skills.

i have a question.
if u bring charm animal. will the dopple have a pet also? screenies if its possible.

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Old Apr 08, 2006, 09:16 AM // 09:16   #238
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Talking Completed with a lvl 7 necro/monk

This has to be a new record *pride =)* and many Kudos to my guild Mistaken for Dead [RIP] for getting me there.

I took my N/Mo in to the double at level 7 with the following set-up. (set-up is close to another one posted in this thread)


Dark Pact
Awaken the Blood
Price of Failure
Insidious Parasite
Heeling Breeze
Enfeebling Blood
Defile Flesh
Rend Enchantments

3 points in Blood Magic
3 points in Death Magic
5 points in Curses
3 points in Healing Breeze

Just throw the Awaken; Price of Failure; Isidious Parasite; and start moving around casting healing breeze on yourself. Dodge as best you can his arrows, and keep yourself healed as much as possible against his arrows and dark pact. And when the time is right, (just as stated in a previous post) cast Dark on him.

I went from level 7-1% to level 13-84%

you may die a few times, just keep at it. I died probably 30 times trying to do it

*edit for typos

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Old Apr 08, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #239
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ur half necro. use sacrefice skills.

i have a question.
if u bring charm animal. will the dopple have a pet also? screenies if its possible.
I tried it and it brings in the BIGGEST bone dragon I have ever seen OMG....





Just kidding

No, it does not bring in a pet, and I do have screenies if you want them.
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11   #240
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Your thinking too small.

Mo/ whatever

Get your 55 armour very early and just go attack him with prot spirit and stupidly low health.


My favourite is the spirit spammer ranger style. I let it use Fertile Season (seems all its stats are lvl12) and a few other spirits then decided to see what happened when it wore off. Safe to say we both dropped dead but i won anyway

You seriously shouldn't have problems with the doppelganger as E/ anything. Bring Fire Attunement along and cast it before you go in (or just don't bother) and the doppel almost always casts it at the start. Giving you plenty of time to get a meteor shower off. Then just move in with Inferno/FlameBurst/Fireball or even Mark of Rodgort

I remember when i fought my doppel as E/N, i spent the ENTIRE fight running round in circles using Price of Failure to kill him. That was probably the dumbest thing i've done to date... took me 7 minutes (1 attempt at least) to whittle away at his health.

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